We thank the reviewer for their feedback. We would however like to clarify some points:
> If the authors categorically reject this common evaluation method based on personal beliefs, it is their duty to find another comparably trustworthy way of measuring text quality.
Their seems to be a misunderstanding with regard to our stance with respect to evaluating text quality using LLMs. The reason we have not chosen this method to evaluate the performance of watermarking methods is not due to personal belief but, as we claim in the rebuttal, due to its insufficient discriminative power in the specific case of watermarking.
Evaluating the impact of a watermark on text is a very different problem than say, evaluating the quality of a newspaper article. Indeed, the watermarking signal is (hopefully) weak enough to be hard to detect, and as a consequence, using LLMs as a judge to measure its impact might not be the best tool for the job. Again, the only metrics we have found to vary alongside watermark strength were perplexity and the different variants of ROUGE. Our choice was thus made not due to personal preference but out of necessity of having a meaningful metric in the specific situation of watermarking.
Now, there is an argument to be made against this choice: if an LLM cannot discriminate between watermarked and non-watermarked text, isn't that enough to claim perfect quality preservation? Such a decision would remove any benefit of so called "distortion-free" algorithms (such as Aaronson's) since even a high $\delta$ of KGW don't seem to impact the grading of an LLM consistently. As an analogy, we could also use LLM judges to grade the overall quality of pictures in the case of image watermarking. Most likely, the problem would be the same as the LLM would likely disregard the slight noise added by watermark methods whereas more common metrics (PSNR, LPIPS, SSIM) would take even small perturbations into account.
The question then becomes: does the watermarker simply wants to preserve content quality as measured by a human judge -- allowing for larger distortion --, or does she want to keep as close to what would be the "natural" distribution of the content? We decided for the latter as it seems to capture the impact of watermark on text better than grading.
>In their rebuttal response, the authors only experiment with weak 7B models, while there are orders of magnitude more capable open variants. Why were these models ignored?
We followed the methodologies proposed recently in the watermarking literature: the *Mark My Words* benchmark [1] claims good grade correlations between GPT-3.5 and the Llama-2-7b model (see Section 4.1 of their paper where they claim a $R^2 =0.97$). Furthermore, the 7b model of Prometheus-eval [2] is claimed to attain SOTA performance at its size and is specifically fine-tuned on GPT-4 evaluations. If we are to trust the results from these works, there should not be a large gap in grading between model sizes.
> [It] is hard to accept the perplexity of a weak 3B model as the only way to measure [text quality].
We chose Opt-2.7b for measuring perplexity as to follow KGW methodology in [3] (see Section 6 of their paper). We haven't found any difference between using a small or a larger model for measuring perplexity. In our case we tested Llama-2-7b, Llama-3-8b and Mistral-7b-v0.2 and despite some differences in the absolute value of the perplexity measured, there was no difference in relative perplexity between the watermarking algorithms -- which is what we want to measure. Consequently, we opted for the smaller model in order to match with the methodology of previous art.
[1] _Mark My Words: Analyzing and Evaluating Language Model Watermarks_, J. Piet et al.
[2] _Prometheus: Inducing Fine-grained Evaluation Capability in Language Models_, S. Kim et al.
[3] _A watermark for large language models_ Kirchenbauer, John, et al.