Replying to Official Comment by Reviewer zthW
Thanks for your reply. We want to clarify the critical misunderstandings in your response:
## 1. Q6 (the author should conduct experiments on LLaMA-3-13B) in the response
**We do not incorporate LLaMA-3-13B because there is NO 13B version of LLaMA-3.** (refer to https://huggingface.co/collections/meta-llama/meta-llama-3-66214712577ca38149ebb2b6) The second smallest LLaMA-3 is 70B. We indeed do not have the resources for training and inference. By the way, our MeanLearn method is effective on LLaMA-2-7B, LLaMA-2-13B, LLaMA-3-8B, Orca-2-7B, Orca-2-13B, and Mistral-7B (as mentioned in response to Reviewer XVL7, and you can refer to the table below).
| Method | AbsR | Comm. | MMLU | RACE | * Average* |
| ---------------------- | :---: | :---: | :---: | :---: | :---------------: |
| ***Vanilla Accuracy*** | | | | | |
| Mistral-7B-Instruct | 83.00 | 66.53 | 57.02 | 75.33 | 70.47 |
| MeanLearn (Ours) | 84.50 | 74.56 | 58.28 | 76.65 | **73.50 (+3.03)** |
| ***AbsAcc*** | | | | | |
| Mistral-7B-Instruct | 72.92 | 58.87 | 40.19 | 52.69 | 56.17 |
| MeanLearn (Ours) | 73.96 | 68.59 | 41.14 | 55.77 | **59.87 (+3.60)** |
About the performance on LLaMA-3-8B, we have offered some clarification in the rebuttal period, which is summarized as follows:
* We have improvements on LLAMA-3-8B;
* LLaMA-3 may need more data compared to other base models. The reason is that LLaMA-3 breaks conventional data scaling laws [1] by achieving a token-to-parameter (T/P) ratio of 1875:1, far surpassing the 286:1 ratio of LLaMA-2. This results in dense knowledge in the parametric memory of LLaMA-3. However, to ensure fair comparisons across different LLMs, we trained MeanLearn using LLaMA-3 with the same dataset size as the other LLMs.
* Although incorporating more data to train LLaMA-3 is unfair for the comparisons with other LLMs, we are interested in adopting more data to train LLaMA-3 in the future. Due to time limits and computational cost, we do not provide it in the rebuttal.
## 2. Q5 in the response
* For your referred paper[2], we do not incorporate it for comparison because: (1) it is a paper of abstraction AND reasoning on **Visual Inputs** and (2) it is an **empirical study** without proposing new methods or datasets. While we focus on abstracting reasoning on **Natural Language**.
* For the baseline proposed by Reviewer vYe8, we do not incorporate tree-of-thought (tot) for comparison because: tot focuses on the **decoding stage**, while we focus on the **post-training stage** to enhance the fundamental capabilities, they are **complementary**. We adhere to conventional standards by selecting baselines of similar types and scales to ensure a fair evaluation.
* Both Reviewers XVL7 and Fwhs think the soundness of our work is good.
[1] Pearce and Song, 2024. Reconciling Kaplan and Chinchilla Scaling Laws
[2] Xu, Yudong, et al. "LLMs and the Abstraction and Reasoning Corpus: Successes, Failures, and the Importance of Object-based Representations." Transactions on Machine Learning Research.