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Therefore, our framework cannot provide any performance gain due to the limited visual capability of the backbone VLM. We have also briefly discussed such failure examples in Appendix B.5, where our framework fails when the backbone VLM is unable to recognize the key information for the task.
Please be assured that we will include the aforementioned table and an additional discussion on how the visual capabilities of the backbone VLM affect the final performance of our method in the updated version. We appreciate your suggestion for improving the presentation of our paper.
## Q.3:
> Did your baselines (GPT4-V and Gemini) include CoT information?
A: Thank you for the question. Yes, our experimental baselines with GPT4-V and Gemini use the same task-specific prompt for each task, as we discussed in line 711 of Appendix B.2.
## Q.4:
> To validate the effectiveness of the proposed RL algorithm, it would be beneficial to compare it with other RL methods, such as "OFFLINE RL FOR NATURAL LANGUAGE GENERATION WITH IMPLICIT LANGUAGE Q LEARNING" and "ArCHer: Training Language Model Agents via Hierarchical Multi-Turn RL." If using the authors' SFT model with your CoT, can we replace the proposed RL algorithm with these RL methods to achieve optimization?
A: Once again, we sincerely thank the reviewer for suggesting additional comparison experiments with ILQL [3] and ArCHer [4]. We agree that our end-to-end RL training framework can, in principle, adopt other RL algorithms besides PPO. Studying how different RL algorithms affect VLM training is indeed an important topic for future research.
However, due to the limitations of computational resources and the nature of training large models, we are unable to provide results for more RL algorithms on VLMs during the rebuttal period. As mentioned in footnote 2 on page 6, each curve in our experiment takes 30 hours on 4 A100 GPUs to run. This time estimate only covers running the experiments and does not include the integration of a new RL algorithm into VLM training, which generally requires significantly longer development time (e.g., for this project, we spent more than 2 months developing the framework just for PPO). Similar computation cost issues have also been discussed in [3,4]. In section 5.7, section 6 of [4], and section 7 of [3], computational budget is a major bottleneck for comparing different RL algorithms on large model training. Moreover, our backbone VLM (llava-1.6-7b) is substantially larger than the backbone models used in ArCHer and ILQL. For example, ArCHer conducted most experiments on GPT-2, a 1.5b model (Section 6 in [4]), and ILQL conducted all experiments on GPT-2 (Appendix A.4 in [3]).
We truly appreciate the reviewer’s suggestion to compare different RL algorithms within our framework, and we will definitely update our paper by discussing the comparison with different algorithms in future work.
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### Concluding remarks
We would like to thank the reviewer again for the insightful suggestions for improving our paper. Please be assured that we will update our paper to better (1) clarify the usage of our task-specific prompts in Figure 3; (2) add more discussion on the computational limitation for comparing with other RL algorithms; and (3) include the additional evaluation results of the visual recognition accuracy of llava-1.6-7b as presented before.
**Please let us know if our response addresses your concerns, if so, would you mind kindly improving your rating for our work? If not, please let us know as well, and we would like to further engage and improve our work based on your future suggestions!**
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[1] Wei, Jason, et al. "Chain-of-thought prompting elicits reasoning in large language models." Advances in neural information processing systems 35 (2022): 24824-24837.
[2] Fu, Yao, et al. "Complexity-based prompting for multi-step reasoning." The Eleventh International Conference on Learning Representations. 2023.
[3] Snell, Charlie, et al. "Offline rl for natural language generation with implicit language q learning." The Eleventh International Conference on Learning Representations. 2023.
[4] Zhou, Yifei, et al. "Archer: Training language model agents via hierarchical multi-turn rl." ICML, 2024.
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