We are deeply grateful for your thoughtful review and insightful suggestions. Your feedback has greatly helped us to improve the quality of our manuscript. Regarding your questions, I would like to provide the following explanations:
For Weaknesses:
1. > Essentially, this is a PPO method? so why does EQ 2 have no regularization terms (the KL term between \pi_{sft} and \pi_{\theta};
Our method is not based on PPO, and while we do use a reward model to provide feedback scores, the training objective and process are fundamentally different. Eq. 2 represents the ideal scenario where the model seeks to maximize the reward that reflects human values. The KL regularization term, which is used as a trick for training stability in PPO, is not included in the objective function. This choice aligns with the approach [1], where no KL regularization was included to facilitate theoretical analysis.
[1] Fundamental Limitations of Alignment in Large Language Models, ICML 2024
2. > in Eq 7 and the line 15 of the algorithm, the tau seems to be a constant all the time, where you should have \tau_{t+n} = \tau_{t}*\alpha?
Thank you for pointing this out. This is a typo, in the revised version, we have clarified that $\tau$ in Eq 7 and the line 15 of the algorithm, dynamically changes with training iterations.
3. > in the loss functions, normally we are optimizing with mini-batch, which sums all the log probability together in a mini batch (because samples are IID), so a better formulation should be like log\pi_{\theta}? Instead, the authors directly used the probability distribution, which is weird for me.
In our implementation, we do use the $\log \pi_\theta$ formulation to optimize the loss function with mini-batches. We have updated the objective function in the revised version to reflect this approach for improved clarity and correctness.
About evaluation:
1. > the authors only tested the method with a base model of LLama3 8B, where I believe more base models should be verified, for instance , chatglm-x, qwen-x, and particularly with larger sizes to see if the claims still hold on larger models;
In response, we have included the Qwen 2.5 7B model in our experiments to broaden the evaluation. Due to time constraints during the rebuttal phase, we were unable to test with larger models. However, we plan to incorporate evaluations with larger models in future work to further validate our claims.
2. > the authors only experimented with one dataset, of course more datasets should be validated with;
We have expanded our experiments to include additional datasets. Specifically, we added the TLDR dataset for the summarization task and the IMDb dataset for controlled text generation. These results are presented in Tables 2 and 3, showcasing the effectiveness of our method across diverse tasks.
3. > the authors measured the winrate and reward scores over baselines, but it is more interesting to see the results on other benchmarks, for instance, IFEval, MATH, BBQ, and other typical benchmarks.
Due to time constraints during the rebuttal phase, we were unable to evaluate our method on these benchmarks. We recognize the value of these benchmarks and plan to include these evaluations in future updates to provide a more comprehensive assessment.
We have incorporated your suggestions into our revisions and hope that they meet your approval. We are open to any further questions or requests for additional information.