Can We Leave Deepfake Data Behind in Training Deepfake Detector?

The generalization ability of deepfake detectors is vital for their applications in real-world scenarios. One effective solution to enhance this ability is to train the models with manually-blended data, which we termed"blendfake", encouraging models to learn generic forgery artifacts like blending boundary. Interestingly, current SoTA methods utilize blendfake without incorporating any deepfake data in their training process. This is likely because previous empirical observations suggest that vanilla hybrid training (VHT), which combines deepfake and blendfake data, results in inferior performance to methods using only blendfake data (so-called"1+1<2"). Therefore, a critical question arises: Can we leave deepfake behind and rely solely on blendfake data to train an effective deepfake detector? Intuitively, as deepfakes also contain additional informative forgery clues (e.g., deep generative artifacts), excluding all deepfake data in training deepfake detectors seems counter-intuitive. In this paper, we rethink the role of blendfake in detecting deepfakes and formulate the process from"real to blendfake to deepfake"to be a progressive transition. Specifically, blendfake and deepfake can be explicitly delineated as the oriented pivot anchors between"real-to-fake"transitions. The accumulation of forgery information should be oriented and progressively increasing during this transition process. To this end, we propose an Oriented Progressive Regularizor (OPR) to establish the constraints that compel the distribution of anchors to be discretely arranged. Furthermore, we introduce feature bridging to facilitate the smooth transition between adjacent anchors. Extensive experiments confirm that our design allows leveraging forgery information from both blendfake and deepfake effectively and comprehensively.

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Reviewer 6DHe4/10 · confidence 5/52024-07-02

Summary

This study introduces a novel training strategy for Deepfake detection using real, blendfake, and deepfake datasets. By designing an oriented progressive regularizer and a feature bridging module, the proposed approach effectively extracts forgery information from the training data, resulting in enhanced generalizability.

Strengths

The proposed method categorizes forgery faces into several types: SBI, CBI, and Deepfake faces, each containing distinct forgery artifacts, such as blending clues, identity inconsistencies, and generative fingerprints. The fine-grained learning scheme encourages the model to learn representative features from the training data, thus achieving robust and general face forgery detection.

Weaknesses

1. The method employs a progressive transition from real to blendfake to deepfake samples. However, the necessity of continuity in these features remains unclear. The transition from real to fake faces, as depicted in Fig. 2, appears conceptually weird. The rationale behind the feature bridging and transition design is not well-explained. The progressive transition between adjacent anchors seems unusual, and the reasoning for a continuous rather than discrete transition is not justified. 2. Despite the generative artifacts present in deepfake data, it remains ambiguous why directly incorporating blendfake and deepfake data during training degrades performance. The authors suggest that direct VHT may fail to disentangle the learned representation in the latent space, but no experiments support this claim. 3. Fig. 1(b) does not appear to be an experimental result, which is crucial for validating the work's motivation. 4. In Line 44-45, the authors raised a question “Can the blendfake face entirely substitute the actual AI-generated deepfake face in training deepfake detectors?” However, this question has already been addressed by Face X-ray and SBI, which successfully use blendfake data to train general models. 5. The term A^T in Eq. (6) is not explained. 6. It is unclear why features augmented with noise should be mapped to a more fake distribution. 7. More Deepfake datasets, such as WildDeepfake and DeepForensics-1.0, should be included in cross-dataset evaluations. 8. For robustness evaluations in Table 6, the method should be compared with recent state-of-the-art deepfake detection methods, and more severity levels for each perturbation type should be included to mimic complex real-world scenarios.

Questions

1. In Table 4, is R2B2D the same as D2B2R? 2. What is the real/fake label of the mix of F_r and F_s?

Rating

4

Confidence

5

Soundness

2

Presentation

3

Contribution

2

Limitations

N.A.

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-11

Dear Reviewer 6DHe, Thank you for your thorough evaluation of our work. We are committed to incorporating your feedback comprehensively into our revised paper to improve both its content and overall quality. As the discussion period draws to a close, we hope our response has sufficiently addressed your concerns. If there are any additional issues or points that require further clarification, we are more than willing to address them promptly. Best regards, The Authors

Reviewer 6DHe2024-08-13

Thank you for the authors' response. Some of my minor concerns have been addressed. However, the justifications in responses R1-R4 are still not convincing. The proposed method shows limited robustness and has not been compared with the SOTA methods. Therefore, I will keep my rating unchanged.

Reviewer Ssp15/10 · confidence 5/52024-07-09

Summary

The authors introduced a method aimed at detecting deepfakes. Their approach, known as Oriented Progressive Regularizor (OPR), employs a progressive transition strategy. This strategy is designed to enable the model to effectively train on a combination of blendfake and deepfake data, ultimately leading to improved performance. The experimental results indicated that this method surpasses current state-of-the-art (SOTA) approaches when tested on deepfake datasets.

Strengths

The paper provides a fresh perspective on the well-known problem of deepfake detection, which should be appreciated. The paper is mostly well-written. The arguments and results presented are easy to understand. The authors performed an extensive evaluation.

Weaknesses

Argument on Blendfake: The argument that blendfake data alone is sufficient for training deepfake detectors is based on empirical observations on certain datasets or benchmarks with some particular deepfake detection models and may not hold universally. I would suggest toning down that claim or providing the exact conditions when this argument holds. CDFv1 vs CDFv2: I believe that using CDFv1 for evaluation may not be necessary. It would have been more beneficial to utilize a different deepfake benchmark dataset such as FakeAVCele, DFD from Google/Jigsaw, or RWDF-23 (please refer to this repository for additional information https://github.com/Daisy-Zhang/Awesome-Deepfakes-Detection). The same applies to DFDC and DFDCP. I advocate for incorporating more diversity in the selection of benchmark datasets. In essence, the authors compared against three datasets instead of five, which is still an acceptable number. Datasets: The authors utilized widely known deepfake datasets from 2019 in their research. However, considering the rapid advancements in deepfake technology since then, I believe these datasets may no longer accurately represent the current landscape. It would be valuable for the authors to include an assessment of their method using real-world deepfake videos sourced from social media and other online platforms. By doing so, they can demonstrate the effectiveness of their proposed solution in addressing contemporary and future iterations of deepfakes. Progressive transition: Currently, the Progressive transition goes like this "Real --> Blendfake (SBI) --> Blendfake (CBI) --> Deepfake". I could imagine it being further extended to have addition of compression or adversarial artefacts (i.e., "Real --> Blendfake (SBI) --> Blendfake (CBI) --> Deepfake--> compression and other artefacts"). That way one could really see a generalisable pipeline that could incorporate the variance in the types of deepfakes available on social media and will greatly increase the quality of the work.

Questions

See the above comments.

Rating

5

Confidence

5

Soundness

3

Presentation

3

Contribution

2

Limitations

See the above comments.

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-11

Dear Reviewer Ssp1, We are encouraged by your thoughtful feedback and grateful for your interest in our research. As the discussion period coming to a close, we would like to inquire if our response has adequately addressed your concerns. If there are any additional issues or points that require further clarification, we are more than willing to address them promptly. Best regards, The Authors

Reviewer t2ao4/10 · confidence 3/52024-07-12

Summary

This paper investigates the generalization ability of deepfake detectors and proposes a novel training approach using "blendfake" data to enhance the model's learning of generic forgery artifacts. The authors point out that existing state-of-the-art methods do not incorporate deepfake data in their training process, which contradicts previous empirical observations. The paper introduces an "Oriented Progressive Regularizor" (OPR) to establish constraints on anchor distribution and proposes feature bridging to facilitate smooth transitions. Experimental results indicate that the proposed method effectively utilizes forgery information from both blendfake and deepfake.

Strengths

- Proposes a new training method that may enhance the generalization capability of deepfake detectors. - Introduces OPR and feature bridging techniques to improve the model's recognition of forgery features.

Weaknesses

- The attribution of the unorganized latent-space distribution lacks comprehensive experiments. - There are some minor writing issues, such as the consistency of using SOTA and SoTA.

Questions

- In ablation Table 2, the AUC of VHT is lower than that of BF-only in cross-dataset comparison, which is opposite to the statement in line 230. - Are all the training sets for the SOTA model comparisons the same? How do you control the blendfake and deepfake training datasets for different models?

Rating

4

Confidence

3

Soundness

2

Presentation

3

Contribution

2

Limitations

The authors believe that the reason VHT performs worse than blendfake-only is due to the unorganized latent-space distribution. Although the results indicate that the proposed method is effective, there is a lack of detailed experimental validation for attribution.

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-11

Dear Reviewer t2ao, We deeply appreciate your dedicated efforts and insightful concern regarding our manuscript. With the discussion period coming to a close, we would like to inquire if our response has adequately addressed your concerns. If there are any additional issues or points that require further clarification, we are more than willing to address them promptly. Best regards, The Authors

Reviewer LWpa7/10 · confidence 4/52024-07-22

Summary

The paper explores the utilization of blendfake and pseudo-fake data in training deepfake detectors. It argues that the significance of deepfake samples has been underestimated due to insufficient exploration. To better exploit both pseudo-fake and deepfake data, the paper introduces a progressive transition from "real to blendfake to deepfake" and proposes a hybrid training scheme. This scheme includes an oriented progressive regularizer (OPR) to model the transition and a feature bridging strategy to simulate a continuous transition.The paper explores the utilization of blendfake and pseudo-fake data in training deepfake detectors. It argues that the significance of deepfake samples has been underestimated due to insufficient exploration. To better exploit both pseudo-fake and deepfake data, the paper introduces a progressive transition from "real to blendfake to deepfake" and proposes a hybrid training scheme. This scheme includes an oriented progressive regularizer (OPR) to model the transition and a feature bridging strategy to simulate a continuous transition.

Strengths

1.The paper is well-motivated, and the proposed solution is both intuitive and effective. 2.The experiments robustly demonstrate the rationality and effectiveness of the proposed design.

Weaknesses

1. Choice of Blend Algorithms: The paper does not provide sufficient explanation or discussion on the choice of blendfake image algorithms (SBI and CBI). As mentioned in Section 2.2, there are many other methods for crafting blendfake images. Would these methods be effective as well? 2. Interpolation Strategy: In Section 3.2, the paper introduces an interpolation strategy to achieve a smoother transition from real to deepfake. Why was interpolation performed at the feature level, and would setting multiple mixing parameters (alpha) for more interpolations further improve performance? 3. Possible Typos: There might be a typo on line 149, $M_a$.

Questions

See in weakness

Rating

7

Confidence

4

Soundness

3

Presentation

4

Contribution

3

Limitations

See in weakness

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-11

Dear Reviewer LWpa, We greatly appreciate your careful review and the insightful comments you shared regarding our manuscript. With the discussion period coming to a close, we would like to inquire if our response has adequately addressed your concerns. If there are any additional issues or points that require further clarification, we are more than willing to address them promptly. Best regards, The Authors

Reviewer t2ao2024-08-13

I carefulky read through your respnose and apprecite your extra experiments. But the latend distribution concern remains, as evidence or experimental cues are missing, even with your response to R2. So I decidrd to hold my original decision.

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-13

Dear Reviewer t2ao, We are grateful for your comments and feedback. We understand that **your biggest concern is about the evidence of latent distribution**. Actually, we have **already provided evidence of the latent distribution** from visualization approaches like **t-SNE.** Please see **Figure 4** and **Figure 6** in the manuscript. In these figures, we can see that the latent spaces of both VHT and Ours obey our expectation. If you have **any further questions** about our visualization and validation experiments, we sincerely anticipate further discussing and addressing any concerns you may have. Best, Authors

Program Chairs2024-08-14

Hi all, the author-reviewer discussion for this paper is extended to Aug 16 11:59pm ET for authors to reply to ethics reviews. -- PCs

Authorsrebuttal2024-08-15

We are grateful to the reviewer for highlighting a significant concern. We endeavor to address this with a systematic and comprehensive response: - **Acknowledgment of Raised Ethic Issue**. - We acknowledge the potential for error detection by the detector, which may, to some extent, lead to significant implications and challenges by misleading human judgment. - **Ethic Impacts and Potential Solutions** - First, we must clarify the **positive social impact** that may surpass the negative one. That is, our proposed method aims to further enhance the performance of the DF-Detector, thereby aiding society in more effectively **addressing the ethical impacts associated with AIGC**. - Second, our method is improving the effectiveness of the detector, which could be crucial for reducing errors and mitigating the negative impact. - Third, We believe that the issue of error detection cannot be inherently eradicated; thus, the detector’s results may be utilized with caution in practical applications, serving as an **auxiliary tool for human decision-making**. In fact, our method can provide **multiple perspectives of supporting evidence** for human judgment, such as by integrating results from different attribute detectors or identifying patterns through t-SNE clustering. In conclusion, we are confident that our method strives to **minimize negative social impacts**, including the societal harms introduced by AIGC and the implications and challenges posed by detection errors.

Program Chairsdecision2024-09-25

Decision

Accept (poster)

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