Rebuttal
We thank the reviewer for the thoughtful feedback and for highlighting important points for discussion. Below, we address them in detail.
**Relationship Between Measurements and Latent Abstractions**
We agree with the reviewer on the importance of clarifying the relationship between measurements and latent abstractions. This is discussed in lines 323–324, where we explain how to transition from $\mathcal{F}^Y$ (filtration based on measurements) to an enlarged filtration. To summarize, there are two possible cases:
- Known Latent World “Ingredients”: If the latent world is known, we have a generative model with an equation in the form of (1), which directly incorporates latent abstractions.
- Unknown Latent World “Ingredients”: If the generative process works purely on measurements, latent abstractions can still be introduced mathematically by enlarging the filtration. This step allows us to reason about the hierarchical emergence of abstractions while keeping the theoretical framework general.
We will make this connection more explicit in the revised version of the paper to address this point thoroughly, thank you for the suggestion!
To further corroborate our experimental findings, we are currently running experiments on the CelebA dataset, where we are observing a similar pattern of hierarchical feature emergence. For example, high-level attributes, such as gender, emerge earlier in the generative process than finer-grained details, such as the presence of eyeglasses, which only appear at later stages. We will place our additional results in the appendix of the camera ready version of the paper.
**Relation to Sclocchi et al. (2024)**
We acknowledge the connection between our work and the study by Sclocchi et al. (2024), and we appreciate the opportunity to further clarify the differences and similarities.
Key distinctions are as follows:
- **Scope of Analysis**: The work by Sclocchi et al. focuses specifically on generative diffusion models, while our theoretical framework is broader. As discussed in our response to Reviewer PspT, any model satisfying Assumption 1 can be analyzed using our information-theoretic framework. Diffusion models are a significant instance, but not the sole focus of our analysis.
- **Hierarchical Structure**: Sclocchi et al. assume an explicit hierarchical structure for the data (see their Figure 3) and use mean-field theory to study the inference of such variables during the generative process. In contrast, our framework does not assume a pre-defined hierarchy of latent variables. Instead, we show that a hierarchy naturally arises during the generative process, as explained by Eq. (8) and the discussion in lines 224–232. This emergence is a direct consequence of the information-theoretic dynamics of the generative process and does not rely on a specific structural assumption.
Note also that our work provides experimental evidence of this phenomenon, see the results obtained in our Figure 3 on the Shapes3D dataset. The attributes that occupy the largest portion of the space (wall hue and floor hue) behave similarly and are the first to appear in the generation process, at $\tau=0.4$. The object hue emerges after these two, at $\tau=0.5$ but before orientation, scale and shape, which appear at $\tau=0.6$. Intuitively, given the nature of the dataset, this hierarchy is reasonable, since (for example) varying the orientation of a shape once the color is fixed, has a lower impact in terms of norms, than changing the color of an object.
- **Experimental Comparison**: While the forward-backward experiments in Sclocchi et al. may seem similar to our forking experiments, they are conceptually different. In particular, in the experimental settings described by their Figure 2, it is possible to observe how via a procedure similar to our forking experiments the cosine similarity of the activation functions in a reference ConvNeXt Base vary as a function of the diffusion time $t$.
Our forking experiments directly probe when and how latent factors emerge by analyzing coherence across generative pathways and compare such coherence with i) the accuracy of a linear classifier on the hidden activations of the score network and ii) with the mutual information.
While the two works are clearly connected, they attack different problems with different techniques. We will revise the manuscript to better highlight these points and further clarify the relationship between the two works.