Weaknesses
* The authors show that instabilities move training towards flatter regions of the loss landscape. However, This has been shown extensively show in prior works such [1, 4, 5, 6, 7].
* The authors claim that the effect of large learning rates pertains late in training, which they dub it as progressive flattening. First, the phrase can be misunderstood as progressive decrease in sharpness, which has been studied in [4, 5]. I would suggest to use some other phrase for this phenomena. Second, I think the result directly follows from learning rate decay experiments from [9]. If the learning rate is decayed later in training, it would require more time to reach the new EoS threshold. If all models are trained for fixed training time, the sharpness will take more time to increase in the case where learning rate is decayed later in training. I would suggest the authors to train the models long enough such that all models reach the new EoS threshold and then compare the performance.
* The authors claim that their empirical results reveal a clear phase transition where generalization benefits only emerge for
learning rates beyond the stability threshold. However, looking at Figure 5(b) the transition is not sharp, rather its continuous. I would not recommend using the phrase transition. Also, similar results are already shown in prior works [1, 4, 5, 6].
* The authors claim that they identify that sharpness is not a great predictor of performance. However, this is already known in prior literature, such as [8]. In addition, authors claim that the rotation can be a better predictor than sharpness. But the experimental results are not conclusive.
Moreover, my intuition is that such predictors can be misleading for very flat initializations (Figure 3. of [4]) which do not require instabilities to train at high learning rates. Therefore, I would predict there won't be any significant change in eigenvector rotation.
* The authors claim that they identify that the effects of large learning rate are observed without progressive sharpening. Various prior works have already found that instabilities occur without progressive sharpening [1, 3, 4, 5, 6] and this result is not new. I would like to request the authors to highlight their new claims wrt these works.
* The authors claim that they prove that for any network with depth > 1, instabilities cause rotation along the principle components of Hessian. This is only demonstrated theoretically for deep diagonal networks. This claim should be modified accordingly.
* Similar models to the two parameter model studied in Section 3.1 is extensively analyzed in prior studies, such as [1, 2, 3].
In particular, when z is quadratic (which is mainly considered in this work) and the global minima is at zero at origin $\theta_1 \theta_2 = 0$ has been analyzed in [1] to demonstrate the catapult effect. As discussed in [3], this model does not exhibit progressive sharpening (also can be seen in equations in [1]), this model does not exhibit progressive sharpening and therefore, this model does not capture real-world behavior well.
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A Lewkowycz, Y Bahri, E Dyer, J Sohl-Dickstein, G Gur-Ari
arXiv preprint arXiv:2003.02218
[2] Understanding Edge-of-Stability Training Dynamics with a Minimalist Example
Xingyu Zhu, Zixuan Wang, Xiang Wang, Mo Zhou, Rong Ge
ICLR 2023
[3] Universal Sharpness Dynamics in Neural Network Training: Fixed Point Analysis, Edge of Stability, and Route to Chaos
Dayal Singh Kalra, Tianyu He, Maissam Barkeshli
ICLR 2024 BGPT Workshop
[4] Why Warmup the Learning Rate? Underlying Mechanisms and Improvements
DS Kalra, M Barkeshli
arXiv preprint arXiv:2406.09405
[5] Catapults in SGD: spikes in the training loss and their impact on generalization through feature learning
L Zhu, C Liu, A Radhakrishnan, M Belkin
arXiv preprint arXiv:2306.04815
[6] Quadratic models for understanding neural network dynamics
L Zhu, C Liu, A Radhakrishnan, M Belkin
arXiv preprint arXiv:2205.11787
[7] A loss curvature perspective on training instabilities of deep learning models
Gilmer et al.
ICLR 2022
[8] On the maximum hessian eigenvalue and generalization
S Kaur, J Cohen, ZC Lipton
https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.10654
[9] Gradient descent on neural networks typically occurs at the edge of stability
J Cohen, S Kaur, Y Li, JZ Kolter, A Talwalkar
International Conference on Learning Representations